The person making the appeal, 1 Peter 5:1 b. Of the two possible errors, the one you risk is infinitely riskier. In the original Greek this word is krima which means decision or decree. So I’ll give you the short version and leave it at that: I don’t believe anyone of us is born with a “sin gene.” Surely, we a born in a world bent towards sin. Where was our freedom when Adam fell and doomed us all to an everlasting torture chamber? But i know nobody believes that. If not, what else is there? Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica. It’s the decision of a judge or authority. Here on earth if someone forces their love on you without your consent, it is considered to be rape. When God gave us the freedom to choose, He knew that some would choose to reject Him and that death and eternal separation would be the result. that’s good news. Hi Kavin, thanks for your comment. Don’t shy away from your God-given right to choose. with him; and which he commits to men, and qualifies them for This has nothing to do with one’s love or hatred for the sun – it’s just a natural reaction to the brightness of the sun. Thanks, btw! And this is said, lest we should securely indulge ourselves, but carefully proceed in our course, and lest we should also seek the smooth and easy road, the … For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, … All rights reserved. The Lord also said to pluck an eye out if makes you stumble. I’m at the East Region of Cameroon in Africa and I’ve earlier searched for your books here to no avail. He wants to go into all of the world to announce the Good News! Because we inherited a nature that wasn’t of our doing. All rights reserved worldwide. If someone gives you a gift for your birthday, you have to receive it to make it your own – or like the universalist, you can leave the person standing knocking at the door with the gift in his hand without actually taking it from him, but think he will someday hunt you down and force you to take it . Please enter your email address associated with your Salem All-Pass account, then click Continue. The Adam Clarke Commentary, has a good entry on this, too. If a Christian could do whatever he wanted we would not be constantly told in the Bible to stay away from all the Earthly things. Can’t that happen after we are no longer in our earthsuit? That Adamic nature has many names, imho: self, carnal man, earthy, vessel of dishonor, goat, chaff, etc. But Christ came through the womb and saved us all. Can I ask you about sheep and goats. Article Images Copyright © 2021 Getty Images unless otherwise indicated. I’m pretty sure I love my bible and I believe the scriptures you quoted are misunderstood by you and many other universalist. What do you make of some of the things Jesus talks about in Revelation 2-3 to New Testament Churches living in the New Covenant? It’s not in His nature. “The Greek word translated Hell is Hades, coming from ‘a(i)des’. The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men but unless you receive it by faith it will be of no effect to you. My 2 cents. Specious means spurious and your logic is demonstrably so. 1 Since therefore # ch. This is not about Satan being mightier. Above each transliterated word there is a … However, I can’t quite work out what this judgement looks like, if it is not the re-trying of sin which has already been paid for. The first times of It was a perfect, never-to-be-repeated sacrifice. Do you still believe we are all “born” goats or that we all simply choose to be a goat of our own free will early on in life. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? All are welcome. If all will be saved no matter what, then faith is irrelevant. In the original Greek this word is krima which means decision or decree. Change ). How to share E2R, Copyright © 2021 The Hyper-Grace Gospel Blessed be the Go… Many are still part of the original sin but still have life. And the speedy approach of death and judgment concerns all, to which these words naturally lead our minds. Gospel, as it makes it the more valuable in itself, so it is to Why? 1 Peter 4:17. phrases, and frequent expressions in their writings, which “It 3 will not leave even a root or branch. Lou, the parable doesn’t make any distinction about gentiles or Jews. There is a day coming when Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats, but this is only bad news if you’re a goat. Grace is the only way gospel sets you free. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God By the house of God is either meant the temple at Jerusalem, which is often so called, because it was built for God, and where were the symbol of his presence, and his worship; and now the time was come, or at hand, that God would begin at his … 1 Peter 4:10 f. supplement the foregoing directions for the inner life of the Church and rest partly on Romans 12:6 (with simpler classification of gifts), partly on the conception of disciples as stewards (Luke 12:42) serving out rations in God’s house.—, in the widest sense (as in Acts 6:1; Acts 6:4; 1 Corinthians 12:5) in … Did He mean it literally or was it symbolic. Impossible! Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.a. “I agree that hell is not part of the gospel. God will lose no one. It is man’s responsibility to walk in that righteousness, common sense would tell anybody that when one disobeys he loses his righteousness unless he repents remorsefully and get connected again to the living God. Think about this why is it do you think, that the sheep did not recognize each other and not know they had helped another brother, would it not have been obvious by that brothers behavior he was a brother? It is that His sheep help where help is needed not just where they think it is justified and they do so because of the effect of grace on them.The wording implies that the goats consider these people the least showing again that they do not exhibit Grace. Blessings. May I say, you may get away with Christ, but not the law or the prison cells. By the house of God is either meant the temple at Jerusalem, This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. However we define love, we must include freedom, for without the freedom to walk away, there can be no such thing as love. As I already said, the parable is not the only part of Scripture that supports the existence of Hell. Jewish culture was well known for making an exaggeration to highlight or draw attention to a truth. I propose that God never stops loving any of us (believer or unbeliever), even after death. It’s finished! Thanks. So your theory of “You had to have sat for years and years under this teaching to begin interpreting scripture this way. Because people need to believe it. That one verse is clear as day don’t know what else I can write. If you take a look at my post on Thyatira, you will find links to the other churches (Ephesis, Sardis, and Laodicea) at the bottom. We can remain in Adam’s family or we can get adopted out. Matt 25.31. I know I’m late to the party here, but I had two thoughts I wanted to share: However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name. Christ Himself said there be “wars and rumors of wars”. How do we reconcile this with the truth of eternal security? In light of this awful persecution, Peter wrote to bring perspective. Salem Media Group. We are saved by grace but we must then live by the Spirit, stay away from sin, confess and repent continually. Absolutely! 1Pe 4:18 : And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? I believe why it says many were affected in the fall is to be taken in the same sense as ,” many will be affected because of Jesus”. 5:24; Col. 3:3, 5 whoever has suffered in the flesh # [2 Pet. were the symbol of his presence, and his worship; and now the Look at how Peter describes this judgment: v.12: “the fiery suffering among you that is coming to try you” Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The key to understanding 1 Peter 4:17 is the word judgment. Just because one leaves in a chariot of fire you think he is better of. Of course they won’t come right out and say it. Wow. The other word Peter uses to describe our sufferings is "trial" (NIV, KJV) or "ordeal" (NRSV). These are just my thoughts. 6:2, 7; Gal. He died for all sin. It means He was well able,willing,and prepared to do whatever He had to. 1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 who have been chosen and destined by God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit to be obedient to Jesus Christ and to be sprinkled with his blood: May grace and peace be yours in abundance. Hi Dr. Paul, I thank Jesus for blessing you with His wisdom which by the same spirit you impart to me as I read your writings. Thank you for putting it in words that I could understand. He did this by comparing what happens to the righteous (persecution in this life) with what happens to the ungodly (eternal condemnation). Paul was probably dead and Peter would soon be crucified. But ALL des not mean ALL whether they believe,recieve or not. family of God: and by judgment is meant, not punishment for sin, If Jesus said he would not judge even the lost (Jn 12:47), why would he judge those he has redeemed and are now reckoned perfect? Time is short. which is often so called, because it was built for God, and where Quite possibly because we still are not totally seeing things from God’s perspective so we just try and surmise what happened to justify our limited understanding. them partakers of his holiness: besides, wicked men are often He said they helped me without even seeing me, faith.Off the goats he said they thought they were so good in works they missed the purpose of my comming they missed me, even though they thought they were good people, they were surprised that they had not done the right work, to believe and see. More works of course! Either Peter has lost touch with reality, or he has something completely different in mind. The first interpretation emphasizes things we must do while the second emphasizes things Christ has already done. As I preach on eternal salvation, someone confronted me with Revelation 3 “Jesus promised to SPEW the Christians out of His mouth” because they don’t please Him. If it is, God is unjust in judging the same sin twice and he didn’t kill A&S. If He’s the Savior, listen to Him. Been to Pentecostal, Baptist, Charismatic, non-denom etc. Love will not take hostages. There are numerous other verses supporting it as well. sins; and then what is begun in love at the house of God, will of which God is the author, and which contains things relating to Why would we need to be in our mortal bodies in order for God to pursue us or for us to respond to His love, to Christ? (1 Peter 4:17 ESV) The Greek word translated as judgment is "krima," which means a decision or a verdict was made and is not the act of judging. Where does this confidence come from? But things since escalated. For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. v.19: “(you) who suffer according to God’s will”, meaning for the gospel. Strip away the jargon and their message is: “Bad things are going to happen to you. The exhortation to Christian sufferers, 1 Peter 4:19 E. The appeals to the church in view of Christian suffering, 1 Peter 5:1-11 1. This helps. Christ won and Satan, sin and death lost. 2 Thess 6-10, Paul does talk about hell. Since therefore Christ suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same intention (for whoever has suffered in the flesh has finished with sin), 2 so as to live for the rest of your earthly life no longer by human desires but by the will of God. 5:15 so as to live for # ch. That’s the good news of the cross. Do you have any insights in this? Some have trouble choosing life as they believe they were and allways alive, they are only saved, and they then debate what they were saved from.They have life but don’t really believe it, like Martha . preaching it, and succeeds the ministry of it; and it being his v.13: “you participate in the sufferings of Christ” If it isn’t, then Jesus is not the Savior and you should live in mortal fear. Blessings. of his vengeance, when they have filled up the measure of their world to come, which will have no end: and if [it] first begin at us; It is quite possible that there are aspects of life that we may put too much value on and other parts we do not want to accept. Also God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, NOW be ye reconciled to Him. early brought upon them to try them, and purge them, and make So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good. (1 Pet 4:12-19). Jesus didn’t share your uncertainty about hell. Some won’t and the end for them will be horrific. Great question! I argued with this topic a few weeks ago. 1:14 the rest of the time in the flesh # Titus 2:12; 1 … Quotations designated (NIV) are from THE HOLY BIBLE: NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION®. Eternal separation in and of itself IS hell, whether you use a lower case or upper case h/H. So what is Peter talking about when he says it’s time for judgment to begin with the house of God? It hurts now, but justice is coming. Even in the o.t. So even though sometimes the sheep dont act how God would want this action is not the determining factor- how could it be as no one other than Jesus has always done the right thing. Story of ananias and sapphira really bothers me. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. made use of as instruments, by which God chastises his people; 1) John 9:39 “for judgment I came into the world…’ Don’t you think Jesus could have essentially been saying that His mission in coming to earth was to RECEIVE judgement – namely the judgement due the human race? (, California - Do Not Sell My Personal Information. It was more in-depth about what I was saying; I don’t know why it didn’t come up. If you’re on the platform waiting for the 12-noon train but you can’t make up your mind whether you want to get on it or not, by 12:01 you will have chosen. Not on purpose I’m sure. It’s one thing to hear the gospel, but another to receive it. If by Adam many fell than by Christ the same many will rise. Thanks so much for reply. this is a bit confusing. I like the article very much and also the latter discussion about Universalism. Remember that another word for judgment is decision. Reading the article and many reports I take it all this is what people think, what people think is not necessarily what god is saying. The universalist view negates any faith response from a believer and rejects any form of responsibility. And if judgment begins with us, what terrible fate awaits those who have never obeyed God’s Good News? 3:18 Christ suffered in the flesh, # 4:1 Some manuscripts add for us; some for you # [Eph. All His parables had great meaning and symbolism. “Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.” -Romans 5:18. How do you read this? God said children won’t pay for the fathers sins. Indeed Paul never mentions it. Hi Lou, Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats, Every single one of us responds to Jesus one way or another, Become an Escape to Reality subscriber today, Why the Woman of Proverbs 31 may not be your Ideal Wife, Last chance to get your name in Paul’s book, First look at Paul’s new book (and how to get your name in it! I seem to remember every knee bowing when they came to take Jesus in the garden. And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. thanks to you and thanks to Christians everywhere who count me their brother. 1 He exhorteth them to cease from sin by the example of Christ, and the consideration of the general end that now approacheth: 12 and comforteth them against persecution. Is it that the writer is talking about unbelievers? From what I learn from you many people are being liberated here from the bondage of sin every single day. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, Hebrews 12:24-25. and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel. With all of the Law, Prophets and even the raising of the dead they still didn’t believe. They left and took us with them. Peter said “Christ died for sins once for all” (1 Pet 3:18). I’ve seen it and it doesn’t glorify God at all. I love your blog! Awesome article (as usual)! Would you please respond.